If we acted logically, would we ever eat food that’s not good for us? No. Would we ever skip our exercise? No. Would we drink and drive? No. None of these are logical, but it still doesn't stop us. Emotion gets involved. As for the current debate attacking incentives to invest, well that is not logical either. Emotion has gotten involved. Take negative gearing for example. It's hardly a loophole for the wealthy, about three quarters of those who benefit earn less than $80,000 per annum. Also, we seem so consumed by our sense of current entitlement, we have forgotten the long-term benefits to government revenue by providing an incentive to invest. Consider this scenario. Bill and Mary are 50 years old. They earn $80,000 a year each and have just paid off their house. They know there’s unlikely to be much of a pension during their retirement. They think sharemarket investing is gambling. They don’t trust super because the rules always change. That leaves property. They bite the bullet and borrow $450,000 at 5%, secured by a mortgage over their existing home, to buy a property for $450,000. Repayments of $3560 a month will have the property paid off in 15 years when they want to retire. In Year One, the net income from the property will be $18,000, and the interest for the first year on their loan will be $22,500. Hence they are negatively geared to the tune of $4,500 and should qualify for a tax refund of around $1,250 each when depreciation allowances are taken into account. The total cost to the taxpayer is just $2,500 – hardly the stuff of grand tax schemes. Now fast forward to Year Five, when their net rents are likely to have increased to $21,000, while their loan is down to $339,000. Their interest deduction for the year is just $16,950. They are now positively geared – no more tax refunds, they now get tax bills. By the time Bill and Mary get to 65, the debt should be paid off and the property could be worth $670,000, assuming capital growth of 4% per annum. It would be producing rents of $24,000 per annum assuming annual increases of 3%. End result:
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BT
1/8/2015 10:57:00 am
Hi Tony, great post. Is that example real? i thought that we were just giving people money to make them richer, didn't realise other side about pensions and tax and stuff back to the taxpayer. can someone fill me on other reasons its about the other side of the story?
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Tony
4/8/2015 06:43:29 am
Yes, the numbers are real, give or take a dollar or 2. When you are making projections, you can choose assumptions that will validate whatever you believe. Any reasonable analysis though shows that the long-term benefits of negative gearing to government cashflows far outweigh its short-term cost.
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Tony
4/8/2015 07:01:48 am
Sorry BT, missed the end of your question. A major point against negative gearing is that because there is a tax incentive to buy property, the sheer number of investors in the market push the price of property up. This makes it hard for first-home owners then to break in to the market.
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25/2/2016 01:44:52 pm
Hi Tony, in my view, I don't believe removing negative gearing would have that much of an effect on house prices given that approximately 65-70% of all property purchases are owner occupied. The main drivers are supply and demand and interest rates.
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Michael
2/11/2018 02:34:02 pm
Tony, I wonder how many people will invest in property anyway. If 9 out of 10 invest anyway, there is a big short-term gain with little change to long-term revenue
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Tony (Author)
2/11/2018 04:57:06 pm
Excellent point Michael. There is no doubt that tax is a big motivator. I mean, who doesn’t want to reduce their tax? My guess is that it would stop a lot of people moving in to property investment, especially when you can invest in shares and be able to negatively gear (but that’s only a guess). I think a better solution is to limit the amount of deductions to say one property or a fixed amount.. This enables investors to get a leg up but doesn’t allow others to abuse the system. I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts on this.
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